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« on: Apr 01 2010, 12:01:00 »

The First Cherokee Lessons

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Dialogue:

ᏣᏂ: ᎣᏏᏲ ᎺᎵ, ᏙᎯᏧ?
ᎺᎵ: ᏙᎯᏊ, ᏂᎯᎾ ᏙᎯᏊᏍ?
ᏣᏂ: ᎠᏴ ᏙᎯᏊ. ᏣᎪᎮᏍ ᏆᎳ?
ᎺᎵ: ᎥᏝ, Ꮭ ᏯᎩᎪᎲ.

Jani: Osiyo Meli, Tohiju?
Meli: Tohigwu, nihina tohigwus?
Jani: Ayv tohigwu.  Jagohes kwala?
Meli: Vtla, tla yagigohv.

John: Hello Mary, how are you?
Mary: I'm fine, and how are you?
John: I'm fine.  Have you seen Paul?
Mary: No, I haven't seen him.


Vocabulary:
ᎣᏏᏲ
osiyo
Hello
ᏣᏂ
Jani
John, Jonny
ᎺᎵ
Meli
Mary
ᏆᎳ
kwala
Paul
ᏙᎯᏧ
tohiju
Fine? Good? Well?
ᏙᎯᏊ
tohigwu
Just fine! Just good! Just well!
ᏙᎯᏊᏍ
tohigwus
Just fine? Just good? Just well?
ᏂᎯᎾ
nihina
And [how/what] about you
ᎠᏴ
ayv
I, me, us, we
ᏣᎪᎮᏍ
jagohes
Did you see it/him/her?
ᎥᏝ
vtla
No, not

tla
No, not
ᏯᎩᎪᎲ
yagigohv
I didn't see it/him/her. If I saw it/him/her

(This is an experiment, thoughts are welcome).
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 01 2010, 02:44:48 »

1.2:  ᏗᎵᏍᏓᏴᏗᎢ ᎠᎾᎵᏍᏓᏴᎲᏍᎦ ᎺᎵ ᎠᎴ ᏣᏂ.
Mary and John are eating at a restaurant.

Dialogue:

ᏣᏂ: ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏣᏗᏔᏍᏗ ᏣᏚᎵ ᎺᎵ?
ᎺᎵ: ᎠᎹ ᎠᎴ ᎧᏫ. ᎧᏫ ᎨᎵ. ᏂᎯᎾᎲ?
ᏣᏂ: ᎧᏫᏋ. ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᏣᎩᏍᏗ ᏣᏚᎵ? ᏏᏆ ᎭᏫᏯ ᎠᎴ ᏄᎾ ᏓᏆᏚᎵᎠ.
ᎺᎵ: ᏥᏔᎦ ᎠᎴ ᏚᏯ ᏓᏆᏚᎵ.

Jani: Gado usdi tsaditasdi tsaduli Meli?
Meli: Ama ale kahwi. Kahwi geli. Nihinahv?
Jani: Kahwigwv. Gado usdi tsagisdi tsaduli? Sikwa hawiya ale nuna dagwadulia.
Meli: Tsitaga ale tuya dagwaduli.

John: What do you want to drink Mary?
Mary: Water or coffee. Coffee I guess.  And you?
John: Only coffee.  What do you want to eat?  I want pork and potatoes.
Mary: I'd like chicken and beans.

Vocabulary:

ᎦᏙ
gado
What?
ᎤᏍᏗ
usdi
kind/type of thing
ᏣᏗᏔᏍᏗ
tsaditasdi
[for] You to drink
ᏣᏚᎵ
tsaduli
You want
ᎠᎹ
ama
Water
ᎠᎴ
ale
and/or
ᎧᏫ
kawi
Coffee
ᎨᎵ
geli
I think so, I think, I am of the oppinion
ᏣᎩᏍᏗ
tsagisdi
[for] You to eat
ᏏᏆ
sikwa
Pig
ᎭᏫᏯ
hawiya
Meat
ᏄᎾ
nuna
Potato
ᏥᏔᎦ
tsitaga
Chicken
ᏚᏯ
tuya
Bean


Notes:

ᏓᏆᏚᎵᎠ : dagwadulia : The prefix d- is added onto the verb to show that the subject -agw- wants plural objects. agwadulia "I want a single thing", dagwadulia "I want more than one thing".

The present tense suffix -a is not necessary so with the words tsaduli and dagwaduli it is left off.

Prefix and suffix list:
d-
Plural object prefix
-agw-
First person singular subject, "I"
ts-
Second person singular subject, "You"
g-
First person singular subject, "I"
-a
Present tense, "Is, am, are"
-gwv, -gwu
Just, only
-di
Infinitive, "To" (as in to eat, to think)
-na, -nahv
And how about? And what about? And?
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 01 2010, 09:38:30 »

1.3: ᏗᏛᏛᎲᏗ ᎠᎴ ᎡᎿᎢ
Questions and Wild Animals

Deer
ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎠ?  ᎠᏫ.
Gado usdi hia?  Ahwi.
What is this? It's a deer.

ᎠᏫᏍ?  Ꭵ! ᎠᏫᏛ.
Ahwis? V! Ahwidv.
Is it a deer?  Yes! It's a deer.

Rabbit
ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᎾᏍᎩ? ᏥᏍᏚ.
Gado usdi nasgi? Tsisdu.
What is that? A rabbit.

ᏥᏍᏚᏍ? Ꭵ! ᏥᏍᏚᏊᏛ.
Tsisdus? V! Tsisdugwudv.
Is it a rabbit? Yes! It is just a rabbit.

ᎾᏍ ᏥᏍᏚ? Ꭵ! ᏥᏍᏚᏛ.
Nas tsisdu? V! Tsisdudv.
Is that a rabbit? Yes! It's a rabbit.

Buffalo
ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᎡᎿᎢ? ᏯᎾᏏ.
Gado usdi ehnai? Yansi.
What kind of animal is it?  A buffalo.

ᎡᎿᏍᎪᎲ? Ꭵ! ᏯᎾᏏᏛ ᎡᎿ.
Ehnasgohv? V! Yansidv ehna.
But is it an animal? Yes! A buffalo is an animal.

Butterfly / Elephant
ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎠ ᎡᎿᎢ? ᎧᎹᎹ.
Gado usdi hia ehnai? Kamama.
What kind of animal is this? A butterfly. (An elephant).

ᎤᏔᎾᏍ ᎧᎹᎹ? Ꭵ! ᎤᏔᎾᏛ. ᎥᏝ! ᎤᏍᏗ.
Utanas kamama? V! Utanadv.  Vtla! Usdi.
Is an elephant/butterfly big?  Yes! It is big.  No! it is small.

Since the large ears on an elephant look like a butterflies wings, therefore, the Cherokees called the elephant Kamama (Butterfly).

Vocabulary:
ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ
gado usdi
What kind of thing
ᎯᎠ
hia
This
ᎾᏍᎩ, Ꮎ
nasgi, na
That
ᎠᏫ, ᎠᎭᏫ
ahwi, ahawi
Deer
ᎡᎿᎢ
ehnai
Animal, wild animal
ᏯᎾᏏ
yansi
Buffalo
ᏥᏍᏚ
tsisdu
Rabbit

v
Yes
ᎥᏝ
vtla
No
ᎧᎹᎹ
kamama
Butterfly / Elephant
ᎤᏔᎾ, ᎤᏔᏅ
utana, utanv
Large, big
ᎤᏍᏗ
usdi
Little, small

Notes:
Most nouns, adjectives, and adverbs that end in -na or -nvi are usually interchangeable.  Therefore, the word utana can also be utanvi.

The final vowels, such as -i and the present tense suffix -a can be dropped in normal speech.  So gawonia (He is speaking) can become gawoni (without the final -a). utanvi can be utanv. (Modern Cherokee often drops the final vowels in many words if they follow a consonant, so Usdi can become Usd, utana utan, etc).

Suffixes and Prefixes:
-s
Marks the sentence or word a question.
-sgohv
But is it?
-dv
Truly, definitely (When answering a Yes or No question positively).
-gwu
Just, only
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 09 2010, 10:16:07 »

1.4: ᎢᏧᏍᏗ
Things

ᎧᏁᏍᏗ
ᎤᎪᏓ ᏌᏊ ᏏᏅ
ᏲᏁᎦ [Ꮧ]ᎧᏁᏍᏗ
ᎧᏁᏌᎢ
ᏗᎧᏁᏌᎢ
Box
ᏍᏆᏞᏍᏗ
ᏗᏍᏆᏞᏍᏗ
Ball
ᎡᎵᏍᎩ
ᏤᎵᏍᎩ
Computer
ᎠᏗᏙᏗ
ᏗᏗᏙᏗ
Spoon
ᎠᎾᎦᎵᏍᎩ ᏗᏔᎴᏍᏗ
ᎠᎾᎦᎵᏍᎩ ᏗᏔᎴᏍᏗ
Electric drill
ᏗᎪᏪᎶᏙᏗ
ᏗᎪᏪᎶᏙᏗ
Pencil, pen
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ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ ᎯᎠ? ᎠᎾᎦᎵᏍᎩ ᏗᏔᎴᏍᏗ.
What is this? An electric drill.

ᎠᎾᎦᎵᏍᎩᏍ ᏗᏔᎴᏍᏗ? Ꭵ! ᎠᎾᎦᎵᏍᎩᏛ ᏗᏔᎴᏍᏗ.
Is this an electric drill? Yes! It is an electric drill.

Review:

ᎦᏙ ᎤᏍᏗ : What kind of thing, what type of thing.  (What is it?)
Ꮫ : Truly, definitely, absolutely, really.  (A suffix added to the first word of an answer to a yes/no question with or without a "yes").
    "ᏥᏍᏆᏍᎪ? ᏥᏍᏆᏛ." or "Ꭵ! ᏥᏍᏆᏛ."
Ꮚ, Ꮛ : Just, only. (A suffix).
    ᏥᏍᏆᏊ, ᏥᏍᏆᏋ : It's just a bird, it's only a bird.
Ꮝ, ᏍᎪ, Ꮷ : Suffixes used on the first word of a sentence to mark the sentence a question.
    ᏥᏍᏆᏍ, ᏥᏍᏆᏍᎪ, ᏥᏍᏆᏧ : Is it a bird?

Mixing suffixes together:

Is it only a bird? ᏥᏍᏆᏋᏍ? ᏥᏍᏆᏊᏍ? ᏥᏍᏆᏊᏧ? ᏥᏍᏆᏊᏍᎪ?
Yes, it is just a bird.  Ꭵ! ᏥᏍᏆᏋᏛ. Ꭵ! ᏥᏍᏆᏊᏛ.

    The suffix gwu (Ꮚ), in rapid speech, sometimes becomes gwv (Ꮛ).

Now use these lists of words to create your own questions and answers. Therefore, this thread, and lesson, is finished, or at least this draft is done.  From now on, if you come across new words or just want to practice these words then post what you have done or found using anything you have learned from this thread.

ᎣᏍᏓ ᎭᏕᏠᏆ.
(Good learning)

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